Comments on: Four Million! http://www.eduwonk.com/2013/02/four-million.html Education News, Analysis, and Commentary Sat, 18 May 2013 16:01:42 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: PhillipMarlowe http://www.eduwonk.com/2013/02/four-million.html/comment-page-1#comment-257872 PhillipMarlowe Tue, 19 Feb 2013 03:26:22 +0000 http://www.eduwonk.com/?p=12491#comment-257872 It's hard to see in this story how teacher unions protected criminals: www.philly.com/philly/education/190787991.html <blockquote>Two former Triton teachers, principal plead guilty in sex case Catherine DePaul, former principal. Story Highlights Jeff Logandro and Dan Michielli were accused in October of having improper personal and physical relationships with female students. The former principal, Catherine DePaul failed to immediately report the information when she learned of the allegations in April 2012. Two other defendants in the case still face trial. GALLERY: Two former Triton teachers, principal plead guilty in sex case Andrew Seidman, Inquirer Staff Writer POSTED: Tuesday, February 12, 2013, 5:54 AM Two former teachers and the former principal of Triton Regional High School in Runnemede, implicated last fall in a sexual-abuse case, pleaded guilty Monday to official misconduct and failing to report the incidents to authorities. As part of the plea agreements, the former school employees forfeited their right to hold any public jobs in the state, including as educators. It’s hard to see in this story how teacher unions protected criminals:
http://www.philly.com/philly/education/190787991.html

Two former Triton teachers, principal plead guilty in sex case

Catherine DePaul, former principal.
Story Highlights
Jeff Logandro and Dan Michielli were accused in October of having improper personal and physical relationships with female students.
The former principal, Catherine DePaul failed to immediately report the information when she learned of the allegations in April 2012.
Two other defendants in the case still face trial.
GALLERY: Two former Triton teachers, principal plead guilty in sex case
Andrew Seidman, Inquirer Staff Writer
POSTED: Tuesday, February 12, 2013, 5:54 AM
Two former teachers and the former principal of Triton Regional High School in Runnemede, implicated last fall in a sexual-abuse case, pleaded guilty Monday to official misconduct and failing to report the incidents to authorities.

As part of the plea agreements, the former school employees forfeited their right to hold any public jobs in the state, including as educators.

]]> By: PhillipMarlowe http://www.eduwonk.com/2013/02/four-million.html/comment-page-1#comment-257864 PhillipMarlowe Mon, 18 Feb 2013 20:43:29 +0000 http://www.eduwonk.com/?p=12491#comment-257864 Art, In the previous two times Andrew has written on this matter here, he directs people to his column on the issue in Time. As for teachers and their unions protecting teacher child abusers, Andy remains agnostic. Here are Andy's Eduwonk words: <blockquote> I don’t know ...., but it’s a ridiculous and ad hominen argument with nothing to do with the issues in Campbell’s op ed. </blockquote> Here are Campbell Brown's words: <blockquote>Campbell Brown: Teachers Unions Go to Bat for Sexual Predators,/blockquote> http://www.eduwonk.com/?s=campbell+brown Maybe you ought to do a better job reading, Art. Art,
In the previous two times Andrew has written on this matter here, he directs people to his column on the issue in Time.
As for teachers and their unions protecting teacher child abusers, Andy remains agnostic.
Here are Andy’s Eduwonk words:

I don’t know …., but it’s a ridiculous and ad hominen argument with nothing to do with the issues in Campbell’s op ed.

Here are Campbell Brown’s words:

Campbell Brown: Teachers Unions Go to Bat for Sexual Predators,/blockquote>

http://www.eduwonk.com/?s=campbell+brown

Maybe you ought to do a better job reading, Art.

]]> By: Art http://www.eduwonk.com/2013/02/four-million.html/comment-page-1#comment-257858 Art Mon, 18 Feb 2013 18:43:59 +0000 http://www.eduwonk.com/?p=12491#comment-257858 "Blood libel," Phillip? *Ouch* I doubt some of you actually read what Andy posts here because he linked to this earlier ... http://www.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeedpolitics/teachers-union-accuses-campbell-brown-of-blood-li “Blood libel,” Phillip? *Ouch*

I doubt some of you actually read what Andy posts here because he linked to this earlier …

http://www.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeedpolitics/teachers-union-accuses-campbell-brown-of-blood-li

]]> By: PhillipMarlowe http://www.eduwonk.com/2013/02/four-million.html/comment-page-1#comment-257833 PhillipMarlowe Mon, 18 Feb 2013 01:06:46 +0000 http://www.eduwonk.com/?p=12491#comment-257833 Linda, I very much enjoy what you write. But please don't go down that road regarding Kevin Johnson. The allegations are serious, but it will be one of those murky areas like OJ. Leave it at that Campbell Brown, Whitney Tilson and Michelle Rhee lie about teachers, unions and child abuse and that Andrew Rotherham prefers to remain agnostic on their veracity. But he will call Valerie Strauss names. Linda,
I very much enjoy what you write.
But please don’t go down that road regarding Kevin Johnson. The allegations are serious, but it will be one of those murky areas like OJ.
Leave it at that Campbell Brown, Whitney Tilson and Michelle Rhee lie about teachers, unions and child abuse and that Andrew Rotherham prefers to remain agnostic on their veracity.

But he will call Valerie Strauss names.

]]> By: Linda/RetiredTeacher http://www.eduwonk.com/2013/02/four-million.html/comment-page-1#comment-257783 Linda/RetiredTeacher Sun, 17 Feb 2013 01:15:08 +0000 http://www.eduwonk.com/?p=12491#comment-257783 Oh, the hypocrisy! Oh, the hypocrisy!

]]> By: Linda http://www.eduwonk.com/2013/02/four-million.html/comment-page-1#comment-257782 Linda Sun, 17 Feb 2013 01:02:42 +0000 http://www.eduwonk.com/?p=12491#comment-257782 If Campbell Brown is so concerned about those who sexually abuse children, she better keep a close eye on KJ, Rhee's husband...the pedophiles are closer than she thinks. http://media.sacbee.com/smedia/2008/04/15/21/Phoenix_Police.source.prod_affiliate.4.pdf If Campbell Brown is so concerned about those who sexually abuse children, she better keep a close eye on KJ, Rhee’s husband…the pedophiles are closer than she thinks.

http://media.sacbee.com/smedia/2008/04/15/21/Phoenix_Police.source.prod_affiliate.4.pdf

]]> By: Linda/RetiredTeacher http://www.eduwonk.com/2013/02/four-million.html/comment-page-1#comment-257763 Linda/RetiredTeacher Sat, 16 Feb 2013 17:24:19 +0000 http://www.eduwonk.com/?p=12491#comment-257763 Yes, four million people who care enough about the nation's children to actually be with them each day. And it looks as though the president is now listening to the citizens who really do put students first: teachers. Teachers know that we need to think outside the box to bring about true educational equity to our least privileged children. It will take a lot more than test prep, VAM and General Stupidity. Yes, four million people who care enough about the nation’s children to actually be with them each day. And it looks as though the president is now listening to the citizens who really do put students first: teachers.

Teachers know that we need to think outside the box to bring about true educational equity to our least privileged children. It will take a lot more than test prep, VAM and General Stupidity.

]]> By: PhillipMarlowe http://www.eduwonk.com/2013/02/four-million.html/comment-page-1#comment-257761 PhillipMarlowe Sat, 16 Feb 2013 16:01:48 +0000 http://www.eduwonk.com/?p=12491#comment-257761 Funny to read Andy here on sex abuse of kids. He's the one who defends Whitney Tilson and Campbell Brown when they falsely accuse teachers and their unions of protecting teachers who abuse children. Asked for evidence, Andy gives none. Here's the blood libel from Whitney: <b>California Whistleblower Case Shows Union Protection of Teachers .... protecting ALL teachers, ... – or much, much worse,</b> http://goo.gl/yjUEb Funny thing is, when you read the story Whitney links to, there is only one mention of the union: <blockquote>The principal notified Carol Hansen, the district’s assistant superintendent of human resources. Hansen, in turn, summoned the local teachers’ union president and vice president to address the situation. </blockquote> I promised to be nice for Lent, but this is stupid on the part of the education reform movement. Funny to read Andy here on sex abuse of kids.
He’s the one who defends Whitney Tilson and Campbell Brown when they falsely accuse teachers and their unions of protecting teachers who abuse children.
Asked for evidence, Andy gives none.
Here’s the blood libel from Whitney:
California Whistleblower Case Shows Union Protection of Teachers
…. protecting ALL teachers, … – or much, much worse,
http://goo.gl/yjUEb
Funny thing is, when you read the story Whitney links to, there is only one mention of the union:

The principal notified Carol Hansen, the district’s assistant superintendent of human resources. Hansen, in turn, summoned the local teachers’ union president and vice president to address the situation.

I promised to be nice for Lent, but this is stupid on the part of the education reform movement.

]]> By: jeffrey miller http://www.eduwonk.com/2013/02/four-million.html/comment-page-1#comment-257754 jeffrey miller Sat, 16 Feb 2013 07:01:49 +0000 http://www.eduwonk.com/?p=12491#comment-257754 "types of workers" This is known as a "tell". In other estimable opinions I hold, Myers-Briggs is a well-meaning pile of psychological excrement. “types of workers”

This is known as a “tell”.

In other estimable opinions I hold, Myers-Briggs is a well-meaning pile of psychological excrement.

]]> By: Sherman Dorn http://www.eduwonk.com/2013/02/four-million.html/comment-page-1#comment-257744 Sherman Dorn Fri, 15 Feb 2013 22:06:40 +0000 http://www.eduwonk.com/?p=12491#comment-257744 Since it's Friday, we'll skip the potentially-metastasizing comment debate about Myers-Briggs and Jungian-style social psychology. Because a debate of that scope would inevitably mean that someone would be wrong on the internet. Since it’s Friday, we’ll skip the potentially-metastasizing comment debate about Myers-Briggs and Jungian-style social psychology. Because a debate of that scope would inevitably mean that someone would be wrong on the internet.

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