Comments on: New Dominion? Klein On For-Profits And Hope Street On Evaluations http://www.eduwonk.com/2012/08/new-dominion-klein-on-for-profits-and-hope-street-on-evaluations.html Education News, Analysis, and Commentary Sun, 19 May 2013 20:50:42 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Lasily http://www.eduwonk.com/2012/08/new-dominion-klein-on-for-profits-and-hope-street-on-evaluations.html/comment-page-1#comment-255231 Lasily Fri, 28 Dec 2012 07:31:37 +0000 http://www.eduwonk.com/?p=11451#comment-255231 well that was a some revolution that's cropping up in this arena and good that you shared such article on this portal. Thanks for your input. well that was a some revolution that’s cropping up in this arena and good that you shared such article on this portal. Thanks for your input.

]]> By: Lasily http://www.eduwonk.com/2012/08/new-dominion-klein-on-for-profits-and-hope-street-on-evaluations.html/comment-page-1#comment-255167 Lasily Wed, 26 Dec 2012 09:52:19 +0000 http://www.eduwonk.com/?p=11451#comment-255167 well that was something useful that we got to understand from your article. Thanks a lot well that was something useful that we got to understand from your article. Thanks a lot

]]> By: arotherham http://www.eduwonk.com/2012/08/new-dominion-klein-on-for-profits-and-hope-street-on-evaluations.html/comment-page-1#comment-249590 arotherham Mon, 20 Aug 2012 13:21:49 +0000 http://www.eduwonk.com/?p=11451#comment-249590 30 years? In 1994 the federal law governing most education aid first required what we think of today as common standards w/in a state. it was enormously controversial at the time and a tough win for President Clinton. It became more controversial in 2001 President Bush further tightened those rules in No Child Left Behind. In both cases a debate raged - sometimes openly and sometimes obliquely - about the role of race and class and there has never been a consensus about it. In other words, just because something ends up in federal law doesn't mean there is a consensus about it - health care and the ACA is an excellent current example. Policies like the one Virginia just adopted show there is *still* no consensus around this issue of what expectations should be. More fundamentally as to whether "different populations have dramatically different demonstrated abilities," if you mean systematically as you seem to imply then we will have to disagree, strongly. 30 years? In 1994 the federal law governing most education aid first required what we think of today as common standards w/in a state. it was enormously controversial at the time and a tough win for President Clinton. It became more controversial in 2001 President Bush further tightened those rules in No Child Left Behind. In both cases a debate raged – sometimes openly and sometimes obliquely – about the role of race and class and there has never been a consensus about it. In other words, just because something ends up in federal law doesn’t mean there is a consensus about it – health care and the ACA is an excellent current example. Policies like the one Virginia just adopted show there is *still* no consensus around this issue of what expectations should be.

More fundamentally as to whether “different populations have dramatically different demonstrated abilities,” if you mean systematically as you seem to imply then we will have to disagree, strongly.

]]> By: Cal http://www.eduwonk.com/2012/08/new-dominion-klein-on-for-profits-and-hope-street-on-evaluations.html/comment-page-1#comment-249572 Cal Mon, 20 Aug 2012 03:47:14 +0000 http://www.eduwonk.com/?p=11451#comment-249572 " It’s a vivid illustration of the belief system that underlies a lot of educational policy decisions " What on earth are you talking about? Educational policy has, for at least 30 years, been premised on the fact that all students should be held to the same expectations. This is the first time that reality has been acknowledged, that like it or not, different populations have dramatically different demonstrated abilities. Leaving aside whether it's desirable or not, I can't believe you're so damn dishonest as to pretend that the educational community has been operating under this premise. ” It’s a vivid illustration of the belief system that underlies a lot of educational policy decisions ”

What on earth are you talking about? Educational policy has, for at least 30 years, been premised on the fact that all students should be held to the same expectations. This is the first time that reality has been acknowledged, that like it or not, different populations have dramatically different demonstrated abilities.

Leaving aside whether it’s desirable or not, I can’t believe you’re so damn dishonest as to pretend that the educational community has been operating under this premise.

]]> By: Transcription Service http://www.eduwonk.com/2012/08/new-dominion-klein-on-for-profits-and-hope-street-on-evaluations.html/comment-page-1#comment-249545 Transcription Service Sat, 18 Aug 2012 14:48:26 +0000 http://www.eduwonk.com/?p=11451#comment-249545 Agreed. Today's educational system needs a radical change. Agreed. Today’s educational system needs a radical change.

]]> By: arotherham http://www.eduwonk.com/2012/08/new-dominion-klein-on-for-profits-and-hope-street-on-evaluations.html/comment-page-1#comment-249521 arotherham Fri, 17 Aug 2012 22:22:56 +0000 http://www.eduwonk.com/?p=11451#comment-249521 I know, frustrating, sorry, but was only one I saw early in the day, found this one and posted on Twitter later: http://hamptonroads.com/2012/08/black-caucus-criticizes-new-school-testing-targets Will add above. Thx for reading. I know, frustrating, sorry, but was only one I saw early in the day, found this one and posted on Twitter later: http://hamptonroads.com/2012/08/black-caucus-criticizes-new-school-testing-targets

Will add above. Thx for reading.

]]> By: Bill Kent http://www.eduwonk.com/2012/08/new-dominion-klein-on-for-profits-and-hope-street-on-evaluations.html/comment-page-1#comment-249520 Bill Kent Fri, 17 Aug 2012 22:08:22 +0000 http://www.eduwonk.com/?p=11451#comment-249520 Your link requires a subscription - why post it? Your link requires a subscription – why post it?

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