Comments on: Odds And Ends

By: Diane Hanfmann

Diane Hanfmann — Wed, 02 Jan 2013 08:12:27 +0000

Matt Ladner didn’t earn the NEPC”s “If I say it enough, will it still be untrue?” for nothing!!!!

By: PhillipMarlowe

PhillipMarlowe — Wed, 18 Jan 2012 23:04:21 +0000

Thank you, Matthew.
But I must bow to your even greater cleverness and learnedness.

To be able to make various subgroups show increase test scores, while there is a decline is truly amazing.

Also, I think you meant to link to this blog posting:
http://jaypgreene.com/2012/01/12/a-closer-look-at-dc-naep-scores/

By: Chris Smyr

Chris Smyr — Wed, 18 Jan 2012 04:35:15 +0000

Matthew, he’s been recently outed as a serial sockpuppeteer, so don’t waste too much time on him:

eduwonk.com/2012/01/10047.html/comment-page-2#comment-237735

Great analysis on your blog, btw

By: Matthew Ladner

Matthew Ladner — Wed, 18 Jan 2012 04:16:09 +0000

Phillip-

Your facility at citing semi-relevant to irrelevant data is almost as impressive as your rapier wit in making reference to someone’s married name that they have chosen not to adopt. Impressive!

Normally I would strategically avoid arguing with anyone as clever and learned as you, but happily the relevant data is entirely on my side in this case, so I’ll chance it. During the post 2007 period for which we currently have NAEP data, DCPS had the fourth largest combined NAEP gains for low-income children in the country. This is before any consideration of the sky-high exclusion rates in 2007.

http://jaypgreene.com/2011/11/04/the-book-on-rhees-dc-tenure-pretty-good-lets-move-on/

By: PhillipMarlowe

PhillipMarlowe — Sat, 14 Jan 2012 01:57:41 +0000

Matt missed these NAEP scores:

NAEP Scores
8th grade reading
2002 240
2003 239
2005 238
2007 241
2009 240
2011 237

NAEP 8th grade reading
year Higher income Lower Income
2003 248 232
2005 249 234
2007 253 234
2009 263 232
2011 259 228

The degree to which defenders of Michelle Johnson join her in pimping the data is amazing.