Comments on: More KIPP http://www.eduwonk.com/2008/09/newkipp.html Education News, Analysis, and Commentary Sat, 11 Feb 2012 21:00:28 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.2 hourly 1 By: Art http://www.eduwonk.com/2008/09/newkipp.html/comment-page-1#comment-8376 Art Thu, 18 Sep 2008 16:47:07 +0000 http://www.eduwonk.com/?p=3550#comment-8376 1. The SRI conclusion quoted above was based on three SF KIPP schools over 2006-2007. Don't know what sample and time frame Rothstein based his claim on. Note, however, that "invariably" is a strong claim. 2. Why, indeed? Art 1. The SRI conclusion quoted above was based on three SF KIPP schools over 2006-2007. Don’t know what sample and time frame Rothstein based his claim on. Note, however, that “invariably” is a strong claim.

2. Why, indeed?

Art

]]> By: GGW http://www.eduwonk.com/2008/09/newkipp.html/comment-page-1#comment-8272 GGW Wed, 17 Sep 2008 17:36:54 +0000 http://www.eduwonk.com/?p=3550#comment-8272 Which is it? SRI says: "Students with lower prior ELA and mathematics achievement on the CST were more likely to choose KIPP than higher performing students from the same neighborhood." Okay. In her Slate review of Paul Tough's book cited in the blog above, Sara Mosle says: "Although its schools technically operate by lottery, researcher Richard Rothstein has shown that parents who seek out KIPP academies and other charter schools are invariably more educated and more competent than parents who don't. Indeed, according to Tough, KIPP's own internal data show that its students enter KIPP already outperforming their poor, minority-group peers." So, um, KIPP attracts higher performing kids? 1. Which is it? 2. And even if the district has kids which are at the 20th percentile statewide, and KIPP gets kids who are at the, say, 23rd percentile statewide, and the district kids stay at 20th, and the KIPP kids go to 50th+, why is this even a conversation? Which is it?

SRI says: “Students with lower prior ELA and mathematics achievement on the CST were more likely to choose KIPP than higher performing students from the same neighborhood.”

Okay.

In her Slate review of Paul Tough’s book cited in the blog above, Sara Mosle says: “Although its schools technically operate by lottery, researcher Richard Rothstein has shown that parents who seek out KIPP academies and other charter schools are invariably more educated and more competent than parents who don’t. Indeed, according to Tough, KIPP’s own internal data show that its students enter KIPP already outperforming their poor, minority-group peers.”

So, um, KIPP attracts higher performing kids?

1. Which is it?

2. And even if the district has kids which are at the 20th percentile statewide, and KIPP gets kids who are at the, say, 23rd percentile statewide, and the district kids stay at 20th, and the KIPP kids go to 50th+, why is this even a conversation?

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