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	<title>Comments on: Seven Different Kinds Of ATR Smoke!</title>
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		<title>By: buyinfo</title>
		<link>http://www.eduwonk.com/2008/05/seven-different-kinds-of-atr-smoke.html/comment-page-1#comment-45860</link>
		<dc:creator>buyinfo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 09:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I’m even more distant from this process and I don’t know any of the personalities. But I’ve seen the human dynamic in a smaller district. If you want good faith bargaining. we need a moratorium on bogus use of numbers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m even more distant from this process and I don’t know any of the personalities. But I’ve seen the human dynamic in a smaller district. If you want good faith bargaining. we need a moratorium on bogus use of numbers.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 23:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting post. A subject near and dear to my heart and one I’ve spent a fair amount of personal research on the past couple years. I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you have got a good point of view. Thanks for your thoughts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting post. A subject near and dear to my heart and one I’ve spent a fair amount of personal research on the past couple years. I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you have got a good point of view. Thanks for your thoughts.</p>
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		<title>By: suriyan nathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>suriyan nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 15:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This problem was caused by the &quot;divide and rule&quot; mentality of
the city! Had the UFT and DC37 sat down together, something the
UFT is loath to do, senior workers, i.e., senior teachers, would not
be in this horrible situation! Just think how precedent setting it will
be to the other unions, if as some would want,  ex. TNTP, would like to
replace senior workers, i.e, senior teachers with young workers,
i.e., new/junior teachers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This problem was caused by the &#8220;divide and rule&#8221; mentality of<br />
the city! Had the UFT and DC37 sat down together, something the<br />
UFT is loath to do, senior workers, i.e., senior teachers, would not<br />
be in this horrible situation! Just think how precedent setting it will<br />
be to the other unions, if as some would want,  ex. TNTP, would like to<br />
replace senior workers, i.e, senior teachers with young workers,<br />
i.e., new/junior teachers!</p>
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		<title>By: Chaz</title>
		<link>http://www.eduwonk.com/2008/05/seven-different-kinds-of-atr-smoke.html/comment-page-1#comment-699</link>
		<dc:creator>Chaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 23:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You seem to have failed to mention that the DOE knew very well that they would have a major ATR problem when they asked for the elimination of the seniority transfer system.  They got their wish and now they whine about the consequences.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Shame on you for your selective omission of the DOE and UFT deal that caused the ATR problem in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You seem to have failed to mention that the DOE knew very well that they would have a major ATR problem when they asked for the elimination of the seniority transfer system.  They got their wish and now they whine about the consequences.</p>
<p>Shame on you for your selective omission of the DOE and UFT deal that caused the ATR problem in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: john thompson</title>
		<link>http://www.eduwonk.com/2008/05/seven-different-kinds-of-atr-smoke.html/comment-page-1#comment-695</link>
		<dc:creator>john thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 18:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As usual, Dean Millot said it well.  Management wants to make things easier for management.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Of course the meetings were secret, but what do you think?  Were the central office staff chafing at the bit seeking authority to follow procedures and terminate ineffective teachers in a fair manner?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Of course. the 360 degree evaluations of schools advocated by the UFT wouldn&#039;t be easy either.  But it. or something like it is necessary.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The question is whether we want to continue simplistic quick fixes. and blame each other, or tackle the tough problems.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I&#039;m even more distant from this process and I don&#039;t know any of the personalities.  But I&#039;ve seen the human dynamic in a smaller district. If you want good faith bargaining. we need a moratorium on bogus use of numbers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As usual, Dean Millot said it well.  Management wants to make things easier for management.</p>
<p>Of course the meetings were secret, but what do you think?  Were the central office staff chafing at the bit seeking authority to follow procedures and terminate ineffective teachers in a fair manner?</p>
<p>Of course. the 360 degree evaluations of schools advocated by the UFT wouldn&#8217;t be easy either.  But it. or something like it is necessary.</p>
<p>The question is whether we want to continue simplistic quick fixes. and blame each other, or tackle the tough problems.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m even more distant from this process and I don&#8217;t know any of the personalities.  But I&#8217;ve seen the human dynamic in a smaller district. If you want good faith bargaining. we need a moratorium on bogus use of numbers.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 15:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find the tone of this post really disgusting, even more so than your usual sarcasm-laden holier-than-thou posts on lazy teachers and corrupt unions. (This from the blogger who claims to want to get districts and unions &quot;working together&quot;).&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Just another example of your willingness to defend a report--no matter how weak or no matter who paid for it--as long as it comports with your hostile view toward teachers and unions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find the tone of this post really disgusting, even more so than your usual sarcasm-laden holier-than-thou posts on lazy teachers and corrupt unions. (This from the blogger who claims to want to get districts and unions &#8220;working together&#8221;).</p>
<p>Just another example of your willingness to defend a report&#8211;no matter how weak or no matter who paid for it&#8211;as long as it comports with your hostile view toward teachers and unions.</p>
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