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	<title>Comments on: Once More Into The&#8230;? Plus: Eduwonk Pimps The Cabal&#8217;s Books To Fill Their Coffers!</title>
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		<title>By: Bill Phillips</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 13:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The comments above were recently brought to my attention...&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I understand the union’s typical guilt-by-association approach, but this Jackson Lewis thing is a bit baffling.  I think I met somebody from this firm once, and I recall that Pete Murphy spoke with one of their folks about the charter law (for their union-organizing book).  Other than that, we’ve never worked with this firm.  Moreover, the above-mentioned book was funded by Joe Reich, Achelis and Bodman Foundations, and others – not us.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;With apologies for further offending teacher union sensibilities (and all other moral transgressions that they identify for me), I must say that I think the Jackson Lewis book is very good.  It is informative and business-like about what the law allows, and therefore helps New York charter schools.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Lastly, I can attest that Andy was completely useless regarding our efforts to convince the Walton Family Foundation to fund NYCSA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The comments above were recently brought to my attention&#8230;</p>
<p>I understand the union’s typical guilt-by-association approach, but this Jackson Lewis thing is a bit baffling.  I think I met somebody from this firm once, and I recall that Pete Murphy spoke with one of their folks about the charter law (for their union-organizing book).  Other than that, we’ve never worked with this firm.  Moreover, the above-mentioned book was funded by Joe Reich, Achelis and Bodman Foundations, and others – not us.</p>
<p>With apologies for further offending teacher union sensibilities (and all other moral transgressions that they identify for me), I must say that I think the Jackson Lewis book is very good.  It is informative and business-like about what the law allows, and therefore helps New York charter schools.</p>
<p>Lastly, I can attest that Andy was completely useless regarding our efforts to convince the Walton Family Foundation to fund NYCSA.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 23:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charter schools?  Teach For America?  KIPP?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The institutional structure?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I wish!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charter schools?  Teach For America?  KIPP?</p>
<p>The institutional structure?</p>
<p>I wish!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eduwonkette disingenuous? What exactly in her posts on this subject can be considered disingenuous or a distortion of fact?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;And why must an alliance refer to a formal arrangement? I don&#039;t believe Eduwonkette ever suggested that these organizations were meeting in smoke-filled rooms plotting right-wing conspiracies.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;When organizations are this closely linked, however, through funding, leadership, and message, you have a de facto alliance, whether you choose to admit it or not. That the policy shops associated with this informal alliance consistently rely on each other for &quot;evidence&quot; and fail to hold each other to any kind of real standard of research is further evidence of this tacit cooperation.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I don&#039;t doubt that Eduwonkette&#039;s alliance of organizations (and their talking heads) have anything less than kids best interests at heart when they go to work every day. But the question remains whether the current institutional structure of policy making in K-12education is sufficiently fair, transparent, and democratic. To date, the answer to that question appears to be a resounding no.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eduwonkette disingenuous? What exactly in her posts on this subject can be considered disingenuous or a distortion of fact?</p>
<p>And why must an alliance refer to a formal arrangement? I don&#8217;t believe Eduwonkette ever suggested that these organizations were meeting in smoke-filled rooms plotting right-wing conspiracies.</p>
<p>When organizations are this closely linked, however, through funding, leadership, and message, you have a de facto alliance, whether you choose to admit it or not. That the policy shops associated with this informal alliance consistently rely on each other for &#8220;evidence&#8221; and fail to hold each other to any kind of real standard of research is further evidence of this tacit cooperation.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t doubt that Eduwonkette&#8217;s alliance of organizations (and their talking heads) have anything less than kids best interests at heart when they go to work every day. But the question remains whether the current institutional structure of policy making in K-12education is sufficiently fair, transparent, and democratic. To date, the answer to that question appears to be a resounding no.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;give workers the impression that their choice is between their rights and their livelihood.&quot; &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Or gives parents the choice between crappy schools and other ones?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;give workers the impression that their choice is between their rights and their livelihood.&#8221; </p>
<p>Or gives parents the choice between crappy schools and other ones?</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Dean Millot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Dean Millot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m going to take my role in this discussion back to edbizbuzz.com over the next few days with what I&#039;ll call &quot;deconstructing a policy keiretsu.&quot; &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;My intent is to take one layer of the relationships that tie the group together - board memberships, funding, shared publications, conference participation, etc - in each of a series of essays/postings.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Readers can decide for themselves what is happening here, what the effects are on the policy discussion, and whether or not it&#039;s a good thing. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I&#039;ll try very hard to stick to &quot;just the facts. ma&#039;am&quot; and leave my analysis to the very end</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to take my role in this discussion back to edbizbuzz.com over the next few days with what I&#8217;ll call &#8220;deconstructing a policy keiretsu.&#8221; </p>
<p>My intent is to take one layer of the relationships that tie the group together &#8211; board memberships, funding, shared publications, conference participation, etc &#8211; in each of a series of essays/postings.</p>
<p>Readers can decide for themselves what is happening here, what the effects are on the policy discussion, and whether or not it&#8217;s a good thing. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll try very hard to stick to &#8220;just the facts. ma&#8217;am&#8221; and leave my analysis to the very end</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So...it was the NYC Charter school association with those unmarked black helicopters. Don&#039;t they have some sort of affiliation with the Trilateral Commission and the Knights Templar?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Jack Ruby and Lee Harvey Oswald both served a predecesor organization, btw.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So&#8230;it was the NYC Charter school association with those unmarked black helicopters. Don&#8217;t they have some sort of affiliation with the Trilateral Commission and the Knights Templar?</p>
<p>Jack Ruby and Lee Harvey Oswald both served a predecesor organization, btw.</p>
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		<title>By: ed at aft</title>
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		<dc:creator>ed at aft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No. I didn&#039;t know that. More to the point it&#039;s not smarmy. You were engaged with an organization that isdoing something that is, in my view, immoral. Working with people whose m.o. is to give workers the impression that their choice is between their rights and their livelihood. That has colored my opinion of you and everything that you do. Good for you for leaving.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No. I didn&#8217;t know that. More to the point it&#8217;s not smarmy. You were engaged with an organization that isdoing something that is, in my view, immoral. Working with people whose m.o. is to give workers the impression that their choice is between their rights and their livelihood. That has colored my opinion of you and everything that you do. Good for you for leaving.</p>
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		<title>By: Eduwonk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eduwonk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Always smarmy Ed.  Nice.  I haven&#039;t been on the NYCSA board since last year because once the real policy action slowed down in NY it became a time commitment issue for me.  But you know that since you follow them so closely.   And while I was on that board I always noted that in any posts here about charters in NY the same way I note other things that are relevant for readers.  And sadly the board position was not-compensated.  As you also surely know most in the non-profit sector are not -- or else I&#039;m on the wrong boards.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Re Jackson &amp; Lewis I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve even met someone from that firm, let alone in a professional capacity, and don&#039;t recall them ever coming up in board meeting etc...But, since I’ve called for innovating with unions and charters and supported efforts to do that, including the schools your soon-to-be president launched in NYC, it’s sort of ridiculous to try to paint me as some sort of anti-union extremist here, no?  You really have to get into tin foil hat country then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Always smarmy Ed.  Nice.  I haven&#8217;t been on the NYCSA board since last year because once the real policy action slowed down in NY it became a time commitment issue for me.  But you know that since you follow them so closely.   And while I was on that board I always noted that in any posts here about charters in NY the same way I note other things that are relevant for readers.  And sadly the board position was not-compensated.  As you also surely know most in the non-profit sector are not &#8212; or else I&#8217;m on the wrong boards.</p>
<p>Re Jackson &#038; Lewis I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve even met someone from that firm, let alone in a professional capacity, and don&#8217;t recall them ever coming up in board meeting etc&#8230;But, since I’ve called for innovating with unions and charters and supported efforts to do that, including the schools your soon-to-be president launched in NYC, it’s sort of ridiculous to try to paint me as some sort of anti-union extremist here, no?  You really have to get into tin foil hat country then.</p>
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		<title>By: ed at aft</title>
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		<dc:creator>ed at aft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy -&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As far as I know, you&#039;re still on the board of the New York Charter School Association. Even if you left, they&#039;ve received Walton FF money during your tenure. Maybe you&#039;re not compensated for your attendance at the board, but on its face this doesn&#039;t read right. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Given that NYCSA&#039;s buddies at the union busting firm of Jackson Lewis are still poking into charter organizing campaigns in NYC, I wouldn&#039;t want you to forget about your relationships and responsibilities there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy -</p>
<p>As far as I know, you&#8217;re still on the board of the New York Charter School Association. Even if you left, they&#8217;ve received Walton FF money during your tenure. Maybe you&#8217;re not compensated for your attendance at the board, but on its face this doesn&#8217;t read right. </p>
<p>Given that NYCSA&#8217;s buddies at the union busting firm of Jackson Lewis are still poking into charter organizing campaigns in NYC, I wouldn&#8217;t want you to forget about your relationships and responsibilities there.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>of what?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>of what?</p>
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