Comments on: Evaluation http://www.eduwonk.com/2008/01/evaluation.html Education News, Analysis, and Commentary Fri, 30 Jul 2010 03:21:57 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.2 hourly 1 By: Anonymous http://www.eduwonk.com/2008/01/evaluation.html/comment-page-1#comment-359 Anonymous Thu, 31 Jan 2008 15:20:00 +0000 http://www.eduwonk.com/wordpress/2008/01/evaluation.html#comment-359 This is a fabulous report. It really begs more investigation of HOW to improve teaching so that teachers can improve. And it would not cost that much to implement if the nation's school administrators were truly instructional leaders rather than paper pushers or mere disciplinarians. This is a fabulous report. It really begs more investigation of HOW to improve teaching so that teachers can improve. And it would not cost that much to implement if the nation’s school administrators were truly instructional leaders rather than paper pushers or mere disciplinarians.

]]> By: Education system http://www.eduwonk.com/2008/01/evaluation.html/comment-page-1#comment-350 Education system Tue, 29 Jan 2008 20:49:00 +0000 http://www.eduwonk.com/wordpress/2008/01/evaluation.html#comment-350 Reviews should be taken more seriously. Lots go unaswered, un documented un challenged Reviews should be taken more seriously. Lots go unaswered, un documented un challenged

]]> By: Color Me Skeptical http://www.eduwonk.com/2008/01/evaluation.html/comment-page-1#comment-349 Color Me Skeptical Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:57:00 +0000 http://www.eduwonk.com/wordpress/2008/01/evaluation.html#comment-349 That would have helped how? <br/><br/>The number of veterans dismissed through the program is much smaller. In 27 years close to 100 veteran teachers out of the city’s 2,300-teacher workforce have been fired through peer review—though some failing teachers do quit<br/>when it’s clear they’re headed for dismissal.<br/><br/>From the Ed Sector report. That would have helped how?

The number of veterans dismissed through the program is much smaller. In 27 years close to 100 veteran teachers out of the city’s 2,300-teacher workforce have been fired through peer review—though some failing teachers do quit
when it’s clear they’re headed for dismissal.

From the Ed Sector report.

]]> By: dt http://www.eduwonk.com/2008/01/evaluation.html/comment-page-1#comment-348 dt Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:25:00 +0000 http://www.eduwonk.com/wordpress/2008/01/evaluation.html#comment-348 I just completed Toch's outstanding study and it in itself should be the "grand bargain." Firstly, compare its detailed thoughtfulness with the huge gaps that still exist in any NCLB II proposals that I've read.<br/><br/>Secondly, as the report notes, just implementing that report would be a huge effort, but it would provide a huge potential upside.<br/><br/>Numerous times in Toch's report, you could replace his words about the streghts and weaknesses of accountability in evaluations with the word NCLB, or vica versa,and its wisdom would stand. Logically speaking, it is hard for me to understand how people could support the ES's paper, and still support NCLB. I understand that politics isn't logical, but ...<br/>After all, the real motive for the NCLB accountability scheme was predominantly the need to sound tough.<br/><br/>So why not substantially replace the accountability wording of NCLB with this effort? <br/><br/>Real reform requires trust. Its hard to build trust with NCLB hanging around our necks. A report as solid as Toch's should be very helpful in building trust, including the trust that union leadership neeeds to persuade our members.<br/><br/>Again, our union was pushing hard for the Toledo Plan. I think we could have overcome resistance by the central office if NCLB had not intervened. <br/><br/>John Thompson I just completed Toch’s outstanding study and it in itself should be the “grand bargain.” Firstly, compare its detailed thoughtfulness with the huge gaps that still exist in any NCLB II proposals that I’ve read.

Secondly, as the report notes, just implementing that report would be a huge effort, but it would provide a huge potential upside.

Numerous times in Toch’s report, you could replace his words about the streghts and weaknesses of accountability in evaluations with the word NCLB, or vica versa,and its wisdom would stand. Logically speaking, it is hard for me to understand how people could support the ES’s paper, and still support NCLB. I understand that politics isn’t logical, but …
After all, the real motive for the NCLB accountability scheme was predominantly the need to sound tough.

So why not substantially replace the accountability wording of NCLB with this effort?

Real reform requires trust. Its hard to build trust with NCLB hanging around our necks. A report as solid as Toch’s should be very helpful in building trust, including the trust that union leadership neeeds to persuade our members.

Again, our union was pushing hard for the Toledo Plan. I think we could have overcome resistance by the central office if NCLB had not intervened.

John Thompson

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